Episode 58. LA Fashion District

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This month, we’re bringing you a throwback episode. We spoke with producer Mariko Abe (@marikoabecreative and @theunicornhoax on Instagram), about hers and Ada’s trip to the LA Fashion District last year. This episode was originally recorded on June 25, 2023 on Instagram Live.  Follow the pod at @AsianSewistCollective on Instagram. For show notes and a transcript of this episode, please see: https://asiansewistcollective.com/episode-58-la-fashion-district/  If you find our podcast informative and enjoy listening, you can support us by buying our limited edition merch, joining our monthly membership or making a one-time donation via Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/asiansewistcollective 

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Patterns & Designers mentioned

Wavelength Hat by Tina Tse Knits

Riley Top/Dress by Seamwork

York Pinafore by Helen’s Closet Patterns

ME2003 by Alissah Threads for Know Me Patterns

Celeste Pant by Pattern Division

Multi-Sport Skort 2796 by Jalie

Resources

Fashion District Website: Insider Shopping Tips https://fashiondistrict.org/shop/shopping-tips

B. Black & Sons Fabrics: https://www.bblackandsons.com/ 

Gold Star Tools Cutting and Sewing Supplies https://www.goldstartool.com/ 

Blue Moon Fabrics https://www.bluemoonfabrics.com/ 

Mood Fabrics https://www.moodfabrics.com/los-angeles-store 

Places to eat

Broken Mouth Lee’s Homestyle https://www.eatbrokenmouth.com/

Tofu King (Arcadia) https://tofukingtogo.com/ 

Show transcript

Nicole
Hey sewing friends, this month, we’re bringing you a throwback episode. We spoke with producer Mariko Abe, who you can find at @marikoabecreative and @theunicornhoax on Instagram, about hers and Ada’s trip to the LA Fashion District last year. This episode was originally recorded on June 25, 2023 on Instagram Live. As always, we’d love to hear from you! Let us know, have you visited the LA Fashion district? What was your experience like? Email us at asiansewistcollective@gmail.com with your thoughts. Enjoy the Ep!

Ada
Welcome to the Asian Sewist Collective Podcast. The Asian Sewist Collective is a group of Asian people from around the world brought together by our shared appreciation for fibre and textile arts, and our desire to see more Asian representation in the sewing community. 

Nicole
In this podcast, we explore the intersection of our identities and our shared sewing practice as we create a space for Asian sewists and our allies. 

Ada

I’m your co-host, Ada Chen, and I’m recording from Denver, Colorado. Denver is the traditional territory of the Ute (yoot), Cheyenne, and Arapaho peoples. I’m a Taiwanese American marketer turned entrepreneur and these days you’ll find me running my own all natural skincare business called Chuan Skincare CHUAN and sharing my marketing tips on my blog. Most importantly for this podcast, you can find my sewing and i dot hope dot sew on Instagram.

Nicole
And I’m your co-host, Nicole. I’m based outside of Chicago, Illinois, the original homelands of the council of the three fires, the Ojibwe (oh-jib-weh), Potawatomi (pot-uh-wat-uh-mee), and Odawa (oh-dah-wa) people. I am a Philippine-American woman, and a lawyer by day and a sewing enthusiast the rest of the time. You can find me on Instagram at @nicoleangelinesews.

Nicole

All right. Well welcome everyone to a special mini episode more just like informal chat with Asian Sewist collective friends meeting in real life Ada and producer Mariko who you I believe have heard from in a few past episodes but we are glad to have Mariko joining us today. They met while Ada was visiting earlier in June. I’m jealous for a couple of reasons and that’s why this exists. One, you got to meet IRL so want to hear about that and 2 you got to go to the LA Fashion District. So I want to hear all about that. Mariko I’d love you to introduce yourself to the listeners today.

Mariko

Yeah, hi everyone. My name is Mariko Abe. She/they pronouns. I am based in Orange County and as Nicole said I am the producer behind many of our past episodes. Outside of the podcast I do comic art and also a lot of illustration. Trying to grow into that.

Nicole

Very cool. Be sure to give Mariko a follow @marikoabecreative on Instagram. So let’s just dive in. Ada and I met earlier this year it was awesome. What was it like meeting in real life for the both of you.

Mariko

I’ll let Ada go first.

Ada

Oh I think Mariko made a comment after we had met Nicole because she was like well now I know what to expect and I was like yeah camera will be out. Can’t tell you much besides that. And yeah I think it was really cool I mean like we’ve been online friends for like what 2-3 years now so it wasn’t like it’s not like when you meet someone for the first time and you’ve like never met them before like we talk all the time.

Mariko

Yeah.

Ada

So it was just like oh like this makes sense also because like when you’re most of us I think have our measurements listed in our Instagram it’s not like you’re like oh like this person you know when you meet a coworker and you only see them in the Zoom box and then you’re like oh my god you’re like ten feet tall or like opposite like I did not think I was going to be taller than you like none of that happens because we all have our measurements listed.

Mariko

That’s true. Um, now that you bring the coworker thing I have done a double take meeting some people in real life because you always think they look bigger or smaller than they do on my end I don’t know. I think it’s because we spoke so much online like for those of you who don’t know I used to work in Tech and I would spend forever complaining to Ada about it. But anyway meeting a real life kind of just felt like when you meet someone you’ve known for a while.

Nicole

Well I am glad and hope the 3 of us and the rest of the our podcast friends get to meet someday. And not in the too distant future but let’s go ahead and dive into this mini episode about out the LA  fashion district. So just a little bit of background and by background I mean I pulled it from the website.

Nicole

I’m just reading this. You know “Being the west coast’s hub of fashion, along with the largest flower market in the country and the largest selection of textiles and notions in the US, the LA Fashion District is jammed packed with 4,000+ independently owned and operated retail and wholesale businesses. The 107 blocks of creativity, community and color that make up the LA Fashion District are safe, walkable, and easy to navigate with the district being geographically divided into 17 distinct categories.” This is from their tips for visiting and my favorite tip I have to say is quote. “Do yourself a favor and bring a luggage carrier/stroller if you plan on purchasing more merchandise then you can comfortably carry.” Noted and I will do that in the future. So have either of you been there before.

Mariko

Yes I have only been visiting pockets here and there but I love that stroller tip because I know that Ada probably could have done with it.

Ada

Ok, no I brought a tote bag and I vastly over blew that. Okay, so then I got another free tote bag.

Nicole

You need one of those bags that Instagram keeps trying to sell me on wheels I think it’s called a Hulken? 

Ada

Yeah, now like aunties in the subway have been using those bags for like decades. But no I hadn’t been there before this.

Ada

So the friend that I was staying with actually used to live pretty close by and when I was like I’m going to the fashion district with my sewing online friend. He was like oh I used to like live next to that has no concept of sewing or like any of the things and so I think it never stepped foot in the LA fashion district except maybe to go to a restaurant. But um, very much like knew where it was and like knew where it was relative to his new house. So I was like okay this is why I won’t be with Mariko and Henry. In all the times I’ve been to LA before that I hadn’t sewed because it’s been a while. So ah, it was nice to finally see it because I’ve seen it on Instagram and Youtube.

Nicole

I would love to go. I haven’t spent a lot of time in LA but I know that driving and traffic is a thing. So was it easy to get to like? Do you park? How did you get to the Fashion district?

Ada

I mean I took a Lyft from another neighborhood called Brentwood because I had a morning work meeting there. I was supposed to have a rental car. We had planned to have a rental car. Um, but that did not really work out. So I was like I’m going to Lyft to the store. We know we’re meeting at this store at 11 so see you there.

Mariko

Yeah, where I’m based It’s about I think it’s about 1 hour away by car without traffic with traffic double that and I have previously looked up public transportation. But taking the train from Orange Cunty to LA I think it takes twice as long and that’s just to get to a main hub then you would have to switch to metro. Um.

Ada

Which if it’s bad traffic time is about equal. But if it’s not bad traffic time.

Mariko

Yeah, yeah, after we dropped Ada off at the end of the trip. It took us about an hour to 2 hours to get back home and we didn’t stay for dinner.

Nicole

So you didn’t stay for dinner.

Mariko

Too tired.

Nicole

No, that’s fair. So we really do need to be driven there. It sounds like Mariko.

Ada

Unless you’re staying in downtown LA like in a hotel there I would say you have to be driven because maybe in downtown LA you could walk it from certain parts and there is the above ground metro but in my history of visiting LA and having many of the LA Metro tap cards to get on. Not really reliable.

Nicole

All right. Fair enough. I thinkI will just get Ubered or something. Mariko, did you you end up parking in the district? Is it easy to find parking or do you have to do it ahead of time?

Mariko

Yeah, there are a lot of parking spots everywhere. But of course it being LA be prepared to pay anywhere between 5 and 20 bucks to park.

Nicole

Fairdos. I had a look at the website and I thought about going before and I’m like what am I going to do there but now that you went I’m like who I went to the website and saw this huge map. 

Nicole

When you decided to go, did you map out where you wanted to go or did you kind of show up and wander? What do you advise would work well for people who are visiting probably for the first time?

Ada

Mariko asked me this question like what do you want to buy probably as soon as I told her about the trip and so we had narrowed it down to activewear and good knits and then we kind of had this like running list in Slack where like “I need this, so we have to go here” and “I need that, we have to go here” and where go really kind of just like pulled the list together.

Mariko

It’s a little spread out depending on what you want to check out. There are a cluster of mixed fabric stores around that are closer to each other within walking distance. But then you know if for instance Ada had said “oh I want to buy denim.” The place that I know of is a little bit further away.

Nicole

Is the entire district walkable? Or would you like, take a cab from one area to another?

Ada

I think from end to end it’s probably like a mile or a little over because like you said it’s like 107 blocks. So it’s basically like 10 a 10 by 10 grid of City blocks and so we walked but I could see how if you were carrying a lot of fabric or you had mobility issues like you would want to drive it.

Nicole

Ah, Gwen is on the IG live right now and says 1.5 hours exclamation point question Mark exclamation point question Mark. Ah yeah, sometimes it just depends on how dedicated you are and if I’m going to fly out to LA I’m gonna be dedicated like that. But carpool for environmental reasons of course. So ok, share with us. What were some of the places on your list of where to go and did you make all of them or 50% of them. What were you thinking?

Ada

I mean we started at Blue Moon Fabrics which does have a great online store. I will say that like we checked out and then I looked at the fabric that I got and I looked at the receipt that I got in the email and I was like this green is different in person and so definitely ask about swatches if you can if you’re trying to shop online for some of these places. But they were really great to shop with because you can kind of pre-shop and then like have someone literally follow you around to patiently cut fabric cuts from the bolt.

Ada

Yeah, where else I think Mariko had picked the rest of them besides Mood because we wanted to go see the Taylor Swift fabric.

Mariko

Yeah, we went to B. Black & Sons which is a big suiting store so you can buy a lot of different outer fabrics for your suits and inner fabrics as well. I love their selection of Bemberg linings because if you go online, you just get solid colors. But. The ones I bought which you’ll see in a real suit are slightly iridescent. Yeah, and also um, another shout out to B. Black & Sons because they’re super helpful. The first time I went there I was buying the materials for my Pedro suit and I asked all these super newb questions like how many yards of interfacing do I need or um, can you help me match buttons and lining to my wool coat and then the person who helped me was just super helpful and very nice guy.

Nicole

Oh we love to hear that we have another question. We have a question from Gwen. A very important question in my mind. Do the stores have restrooms and what happens when you need a bathroom break. It’s real.

Mariko

I can answer that honestly toilet anxiety is a big thing whenever I drive into LA. Um, a lot of the stores especially in the fabric District downtown. They tend not to open up their bathrooms for people. So. If you’re familiar with the route between downtown and Orange County. There’s a section of shipping and commerce stuff going on in Commerce and ah looking for a bathroom. There was a chore.

Ada

I was going to give a shout out to the place that we had lunch at which is called broken Mouth Lee’s home style they were in um, it’s basically like Hawaiian Californian style traditional asian comfort food kind of fusion so they were in like a mini food court like there was a Pizza Hut Domino’s next to them but also like an independent Thai restaurant and they had a bathroom in there so we ended up using the bathroom at lunch because I think.

Ada

Like Mariko said and like toilet anxiety is real.

Nicole

I feel you. I definitely feel you on that. We are asking the hard questions here at the ASC Podcast.

Ada

There are some coffee places too that you could definitely like buy a coffee and ask to borrow the bathroom.

Nicole

Yeah, though, it is definitely important where else did you go?

Ada

Mood for me. Yeah.

Mariko

We wanted to go to Gold Star Tools I think but it was closed early. They have 2 stores in the fashion district and they basically sell all the different notions and tools that you can ever imagine.

Nicole

The tool near nerd in me is like oh I want to see all that because I have a lot of fabric. Not that I’m not going to buy fabric. But.

Mariko

Well, you’ll be glad to hear that they’ve got an online store and shipping is ninety nine cents flat and they ship very fast. So I’ve done a lot of last minute “broke all my jeans buttons need more ordering”.

Nicole

That’s good to know. Well definitely when the podcast comes out, we’ll have all of these links in the show notes. So that people can check them out so you named a couple of places. One thing I should have asked was what day of the week did you go.

Ada

We went on Friday because I was going to plan on doing it on a weekend but then Mariko pointed out that most of these fabric stores aren’t open on the weekends. They are Monday to Friday operation generally anywhere from like 9 to 10 am for the ones that are not wholesale like. You can walk in as a regular person and buy. Some of them open at like 11 I think but most of them were open by the time we were there at 11. And I think they all close around 4-5. It’s not open very late.

Nicole

So it’s really an industry sort of neighborhood. It’s not for, not necessarily built around home sewists. But it’s for people who are working and in the industry.

Ada

Yeah, like there are some small, there’s a ton of smaller designers and there’s even people who come from like San Francisco to source for their fabric and fashion lines up there. But they’re like smaller scale production so they’ll be like buying a full bolt. But obviously they’re going to go during business hours because it’s like a business thing. So like one store that we passed on the way to B. Black and Sons from lunch had this bolt outside of a fabric that I had scraps of from a slow fashion company up in San Francisco.

Nicole

Oh cool.

Ada

And so I was like I know that fabric do I want like I don’t need No I don’t need this. We’re going to keep walking.

Nicole

So do… you go ahead.

Mariko

Yeah I think um, oh sorry I just wanted to add on top of that most of the stores you can go in and buy, you know, small cuts less than a bolt size but I do also know that the denim store I frequent there are a lot Pacific Blue denims. Pricing is great but they may charge you a cutting fee because you’re cutting into a whole bolt whereas most people would go in and put the whole thing on their shoulder and head out.

Nicole

That sounds like so much fun. I mean, what am I going to do with the whole bolt of denim? Of course I’m not going to do it. I know but, all that sounds so exciting like what was it like just.

Mariko

Um, all the jeans.

Ada

How are you going to get it home?

Nicole

Being in amongst you know the like all of these stores I feel like I would be really overwhelmed but like excited about being there.

Ada

Yeah.

Mariko

A little bit overwhelming for me personally anyway and going back to your example of Auntie carts I think we saw a few people bringing them around and buying like mounds and mounds of fabric for their business.

Ada

Yeah there are some stores especially near we were kind of near Santee Alley which, if you just look up videos of it on Youtube or Instagram like it’s just lots of independent vendors with. Sometimes similar fabrics but like they’ve got the bolt like straight up outside their store kind of like shopping a rack outside a store but it’s not a ready to wear garment. It is literally fabric that you would need to turn into a garment and so the sheer amount of stuff that is out I think is a bit overwhelming. It does remind me of shopping for fabric or going to like certain warehouse districts. Especially like in Taiwan. There’s a whole district in Taipei that’s a little bit removed but that’s where all the vendors for night markets buy all their clothing. So then obviously they mark it up at the night market but if you go to that district and you’re wandering like it’s literally alleyways. It’s just racks and racks of clothing and sometimes fabric that are like outside these stores and it’s very narrow and that’s kind of like what I was reminded of.

Nicole

It sounds like it might be claustrophobic to just be in amongst all the racks and stuff you know or or I don’t know. Could just be something to think about I guess if you’re if you’re thinking about going. Mariko, you said you saw people with the auntie carts. I mean were there people with luggage because I don’t have an auntie cart.

Ada

I saw someone with a luggage. Yeah.

Mariko

Ah, ah you yeah I was going to say you’re not going to be out of place but to add to Ada’s Point imagine it’s like a bunch of stores along the street but then half of each store’s items are all on the pavement so you can get your suitcase through.

But you’re going to have to negotiate that suitcase with a bunch of people depending on the day that you’re there.

Nicole

Okay, okay, good to know. Good to know. I would definitely bring something with wheels because it’s easier to do that and navigate through a crowd than throw out my back or shoulder or something like that. So for folks who are on the IG live right now, if you have any questions drop them in the chat we’re keeping an eye on it. Were there any places that you felt like really weren’t worth going into or checking out?

Mariko

I must say Mood. I’m gonna say Mood.

Ada

Mood being the big one because like as soon as we walked in there we were like nope not for us. 

Mariko

Well disclaimer though if you’re going to make an evening gown. There’s a huge selection of beautiful sequin stuff Lace etc. So it’s great for that but not for general garment sewing.

Ada

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can find better general garment sewing fabrics I think elsewhere at better prices for nicer quality and not to mention they always just, Mood just always has problematic fabrics and I don’t know why we all keep shopping there. We were purely there to look at the Taylor Swift lace which then we established was outside of everybody anybody’s budget. The other I would skip is like, unless you are specifically looking for outdoor fabric. We actually passed quite a few stores that had Sunbrella which is a brand name of sun like UV treated outdoor fabric unless you’re going for that like you need to make an outdoor umbrella or  table cover, outdoor cushions. Any of that you could totally just skip those stores because they are very much geared towards people who are doing that who I’m sure are also sewing on industrial machines to handle this thickness of that fabric. And then there were quite a few that were kind of,  just had lots of tulle. Tulle everywhere. So also if you’re making an evening gown or you’re really into tulle definitely hit up those shops that just have tulle outside. They’re pretty hard to find on Google maps. But once you are kind of in the middle you will see like 5 of the like very similar stories. Personally, I have a lot of tulle in my stash. Don’t need more. So 

Nicole

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you make something with tulle.

Ada
Yeah, it was an ambitious thrift purchase.

Nicole

I have tulle as well that has not seen the light of day. 

Ada

One day.

Nicole

Yeah. Anywhere else Mariko that’s like, skip it?

Mariko

I can’t say for sure because I always look up where I’m going to go before I go since it’s such a trek. I will say that there are a lot of ready-to-wear clothing stores scattered in between the fabric stores which again ties back to the whole. It’s a little bit hard to walk around and browse.

Nicole

Okay, good to know I’ve got one more question for you and then we’ll wrap it up and I’ll kind of try to summarize everything succinctly. In addition to the restroom situations important, equally important to me and related to the restroom situation. What’s the food situation like ah, be able to find food easily was it good? Do you have any recommendations because sounds like you could really have a big day there and you need sustenance.

Mariko

I have in the past dipped in bought stuff and gone off to Santa Monica or something else, but there are definitely food options as ada said Broken Mouth – Hawaiian Asian with a Korean twist I want to say, that was really good. I think that little food court is just going to grow. It looks fairly new. There are a lot of random cafes here and there. I know there’s a shawarma pita something cuisine nearby which has very flashy signs probably is good. Haven’t tried it. So there are definitely food options and to top it off I think there are a lot of street stalls as well often frequented by people who either work there or work nearby have their own fabric businesses.

Nicole

That’s good to know. I always need to know what the food situation is my friends and family know that I’m always asking about that. Okay, well to just sum up and let me know if I get anything wrong Ada and Mariko so got to be dropped off or drive plenty of parking.

Probably map out your day. Do research in advance if you just show up, you’re probably not going to get a lot done or you’ll be super overwhelmed to not know where to go. Maybe skip Mood because there are a lot of other places you can shop while you’re there. A couple other places that weren’t worth it. But I think researching ahead of time is going to help take care of like where you go. Food and bathrooms available. Did I Miss anything? Anything else?

Ada

Oh as you were summarizing I would add if you are not on a time crunch like you have more than one day in LA or you’ve dedicated the whole day to it. You could probably get around the research part if you were very good about managing your time. So you spend the first hour to when the stores open just taking a look like doing that first pass and then marking down or dropping a pin or whatever where you want to come back to and then doing your actual shopping because unless you have someone who’s been there before, like I did, you will be like what is this and definitely overwhelmed. So, shout out to Mariko for being my guide and to Henry for coming and driving here.

Mariko

I’ll also add a lot of the stores have so much of a collection so like even Blue Moon Fabrics itself must be. I want to say just under 10 aisles, full aisles, of fabric so you’re going to want to spend time walking through it and just really absorbing all your colors because I think Ada, correct me if I’m wrong, the way you did it was we went through all of the aisles you took pictures of what you wanted. And then we asked that very nice gentleman to help us cut all those fabrics you wanted.

Ada

Yep, he was very patient.

Nicole

That’s a good strategy. Yeah I would not have had a strategy if I don’t believe if we talked I think I would have just shown up. Um, so I’m glad I’m glad this is why we’re having this conversation.

Nicole

Um, we have a question from Esther. Hi Esther. Do you need cash for the shops or is card. Okay.

Mariko

I think generally card is okay.

Ada

Yeah I want to guess that with COVID card has been more okay. Obviously most businesses prefer cash if you can bring cash and you feel comfortable carrying it around. I think most of them will have a sign if they don’t accept credit cards. Neat thing that I experienced from the first time where Mariko is going to laugh in Arcadia is when we went to this Taiwanese restaurant, shout out Tofu King, very good Taiwanese food, if you would like to go has the requisite 3.5 stars for just being a quick eat. They are cash only or Zelle.

And they just tell you at the front they’re like cash only or Zelle and I was like who uses Zelle? I would rather go to the atm.

Nicole

I do. I use Zelle. Is this a problem? Maybe we can talk about it offline 

Ada

I don’t know but the Zelle screen gave me like 5 warning messages yesterday and I was like I’m just trying to pay my friend back. Venmo isn’t like this.

Nicole

I must just be old then, and like my Zelle. Formerly Chase Quickpay. Thanks for the question Esther. Okay, so that’s alll I wanted to chat with you about any last things, Mariko or Ada, about the LA Fashion that you want to impart to our friends?

Mariko

Come visit and say hi and let me know I don’t mind if it takes me an hour or an hour and a half to get there I would love to meet all of you and I would love to go fabric shopping with you.

Ada

Hydrate and bring a water bottle and make sure to look and see if the store has signs saying they allow recording or not if you are going to be taking pictures and taking videos but also yes hydrate because it was hot.

Nicole

Alright. Well great tips I am going to go there someday and Mariko I will definitely take you up on your offer to show me around. I can’t promise I’m going to be as organized as Ada. I think I’m a little bit more like. Wow. There’s so much here. Oh my gosh. Yeah so but it’ll be fun.

Mariko

That makes for good content. That’s perfect!

Nicole

True True story. Aww my bestie’s on here and she said let’s go. She’s Amazing. She’s just learning how to sew Love it.

Ada

Even more reason you don’t have as a big old stash yet kind of you got to fill up that stash.

Nicole

That’s true. That’s true. Alright, thank you both for your time this morning. Thanks folks on IG live for joining us. If you have any questions about the LA Fashion District, always feel free to shoot us an email or a message on Instagram and we’d love to hear. Have you been to the fashion district? Did you love it? Did you hate it? What did you do to make it successful and we just love to hear from you and it’s really about me, so that I can get all the feedback that I can get before I go to the LA Fashion District. Thank you both again! Thanks everyone. 

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